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Ill explain both. I drilled the holes deeper in three out of four of mine so I did not experience that issue. efr571db But no, the Product came exactly how it was expected and I even got more goodies than I had expected. The whole point of me buying these is to soften up the sound so this is good for me! efr571db This product is a great value for the price. efr571db The cables themselves are long and thick, it would have been nice if the spare was a 1. How this jacket will fare following years of use and laundering remains to be seen. I also love that people do not complain about the muffled sound on a phone call while talking through these, as they did with my others that had the long stick down from the earbud. efr571db I do have extremely wide feet so that prob dont help the durability issue. the build quality, the feel, the packaging materials are all very nice.

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